I have a Radeon x1600 Pro 512mb PCI Express x16. Everything during the install of vista seems to work fine, however after the install's final reboot (when its supposed to get you to create your windows username) all I see is a black screen with the mouse cursor (which does seem to move - not frozen). The only way I can get to a desktop is if I boot into safemode where I can install the ATI Catalyst Vista drivers which seem to work. Once I restart the computer from safe mode Windows seems to work correctly with Glass enabled etc. However if I reboot again, I get the black screen. So it looks like if I want glass I have to boot into safe mode and reinstall the ATI Vista drivers before I can boot into regular mode.
I know that the Radeon Mobility x1600 has had some issues and only works with the standard VGA display adapter driver (which obvisouly doesnt support glass). Is it maybe because the Mobility and the PCI-E versions are built on the same chipset?
Is anyone else having problems like this? Please let me know.

Radeon x1600 Pro Pci-e Black Screen on Boot
I have been having the same issue, only difference is my card is the AGP version. Everything works great when i'm in the regukar desktop but as soon as a driver installs and restarts the pc it has to go into safe mode or it will go to a black screen.
"Brad Rothman" wrote:
I have a Radeon x1600 Pro 512mb PCI Express x16. Everything during the install of vista seems to work fine, however after the install's final reboot (when its supposed to get you to create your windows username) all I see is a black screen with the mouse cursor (which does seem to move - not frozen). The only way I can get to a desktop is if I boot into safemode where I can install the ATI Catalyst Vista drivers which seem to work. Once I restart the computer from safe mode Windows seems to work correctly with Glass enabled etc. However if I reboot again, I get the black screen. So it looks like if I want glass I have to boot into safe mode and reinstall the ATI Vista drivers before I can boot into regular mode.
I know that the Radeon Mobility x1600 has had some issues and only works with the standard VGA display adapter driver (which obvisouly doesnt support glass). Is it maybe because the Mobility and the PCI-E versions are built on the same chipset?
Is anyone else having problems like this? Please let me know.
A quick update even though I just posted, now after the black screen I am getting a BSOD. I was updating my graphics card drivers to the ATI Vista Beta drivers in Aero, upon restart I got the usual black screen but a few seconds later it was followed by a BSOD that said something to the effect of crash dump and logged some data and automatically restarted. If I try to go right back to start normal it does it again.
"Adam" wrote:
I have been having the same issue, only difference is my card is the AGP version. Everything works great when i'm in the regukar desktop but as soon as a driver installs and restarts the pc it has to go into safe mode or it will go to a black screen.
"Brad Rothman" wrote:
I have a Radeon x1600 Pro 512mb PCI Express x16. Everything during the install of vista seems to work fine, however after the install's final reboot (when its supposed to get you to create your windows username) all I see is a black screen with the mouse cursor (which does seem to move - not frozen). The only way I can get to a desktop is if I boot into safemode where I can install the ATI Catalyst Vista drivers which seem to work. Once I restart the computer from safe mode Windows seems to work correctly with Glass enabled etc. However if I reboot again, I get the black screen. So it looks like if I want glass I have to boot into safe mode and reinstall the ATI Vista drivers before I can boot into regular mode.
I know that the Radeon Mobility x1600 has had some issues and only works with the standard VGA display adapter driver (which obvisouly doesnt support glass). Is it maybe because the Mobility and the PCI-E versions are built on the same chipset?
Is anyone else having problems like this? Please let me know.
Yes, It is quite frustrating. There must be some kind of solution or driver configuration that will make this more workable...
Anyone else having these problems?
"Adam" wrote:
A quick update even though I just posted, now after the black screen I am getting a BSOD. I was updating my graphics card drivers to the ATI Vista Beta drivers in Aero, upon restart I got the usual black screen but a few seconds later it was followed by a BSOD that said something to the effect of crash dump and logged some data and automatically restarted. If I try to go right back to start normal it does it again.
"Adam" wrote:
I have been having the same issue, only difference is my card is the AGP version. Everything works great when i'm in the regukar desktop but as soon as a driver installs and restarts the pc it has to go into safe mode or it will go to a black screen.
"Brad Rothman" wrote:
I have a Radeon x1600 Pro 512mb PCI Express x16. Everything during the install of vista seems to work fine, however after the install's final reboot (when its supposed to get you to create your windows username) all I see is a black screen with the mouse cursor (which does seem to move - not frozen). The only way I can get to a desktop is if I boot into safemode where I can install the ATI Catalyst Vista drivers which seem to work. Once I restart the computer from safe mode Windows seems to work correctly with Glass enabled etc. However if I reboot again, I get the black screen. So it looks like if I want glass I have to boot into safe mode and reinstall the ATI Vista drivers before I can boot into regular mode.
I know that the Radeon Mobility x1600 has had some issues and only works with the standard VGA display adapter driver (which obvisouly doesnt support glass). Is it maybe because the Mobility and the PCI-E versions are built on the same chipset?
Is anyone else having problems like this? Please let me know.
Update from earlier, if I disable my display adapters and leave them that way then vista will restart without any problems whatsoever. I have been running it this way since the last post and not had any of the issues, but I shouldn't have to have my display adapters disabled either.
I have tried both the current ATI Vista Beta drivers and the Vista system installed drivers but still have the same problem in the end.
You and I are in the same boat my friend... Disabling the adapter or using the builtin Windows generic VGA Driver seems to work however this is not too usefull since it obvisouly doesn't support the glass theme. It also seems a bit slower when moving windows around and such.
"Adam" wrote:
Update from earlier, if I disable my display adapters and leave them that way then vista will restart without any problems whatsoever. I have been running it this way since the last post and not had any of the issues, but I shouldn't have to have my display adapters disabled either.
I have tried both the current ATI Vista Beta drivers and the Vista system installed drivers but still have the same problem in the end.
OK, I just reinstalled from a XP installation as a new installaion on a another hard drive. This time I told it to check for updates before install, and everything seems to work fine now! Glass is finially working and I can reboot the pc WITHOUT HAVING TO GO INTO SAFE MODE FIRST! if you can dont install from DVD boot, rather just install from XP or something.
"Brad Rothman" wrote:
You and I are in the same boat my friend... Disabling the adapter or using the builtin Windows generic VGA Driver seems to work however this is not too usefull since it obvisouly doesn't support the glass theme. It also seems a bit slower when moving windows around and such.
"Adam" wrote:
Update from earlier, if I disable my display adapters and leave them that way then vista will restart without any problems whatsoever. I have been running it this way since the last post and not had any of the issues, but I shouldn't have to have my display adapters disabled either.
I have tried both the current ATI Vista Beta drivers and the Vista system installed drivers but still have the same problem in the end.
So your saying you did an upgrade from WinXP then and it all works fine now right?
"Brad Rothman" wrote:
OK, I just reinstalled from a XP installation as a new installaion on a another hard drive. This time I told it to check for updates before install, and everything seems to work fine now! Glass is finially working and I can reboot the pc WITHOUT HAVING TO GO INTO SAFE MODE FIRST! if you can dont install from DVD boot, rather just install from XP or something.
"Brad Rothman" wrote:
You and I are in the same boat my friend... Disabling the adapter or using the builtin Windows generic VGA Driver seems to work however this is not too usefull since it obvisouly doesn't support the glass theme. It also seems a bit slower when moving windows around and such.
"Adam" wrote:
Update from earlier, if I disable my display adapters and leave them that way then vista will restart without any problems whatsoever. I have been running it this way since the last post and not had any of the issues, but I shouldn't have to have my display adapters disabled either.
I have tried both the current ATI Vista Beta drivers and the Vista system installed drivers but still have the same problem in the end.
No, I didnt upgrade my XP installation, I just installed it to another harddrive while still in XP. I have it setup as a dual boot now... Just stick the DVD in the drive while youre in XP and ask it to get all updates etc and it should work... it did for me at least... Good Luck
"Adam" wrote:
So your saying you did an upgrade from WinXP then and it all works fine now right?
"Brad Rothman" wrote:
OK, I just reinstalled from a XP installation as a new installaion on a another hard drive. This time I told it to check for updates before install, and everything seems to work fine now! Glass is finially working and I can reboot the pc WITHOUT HAVING TO GO INTO SAFE MODE FIRST! if you can dont install from DVD boot, rather just install from XP or something.
"Brad Rothman" wrote:
You and I are in the same boat my friend... Disabling the adapter or using the builtin Windows generic VGA Driver seems to work however this is not too usefull since it obvisouly doesn't support the glass theme. It also seems a bit slower when moving windows around and such.
"Adam" wrote:
Update from earlier, if I disable my display adapters and leave them that way then vista will restart without any problems whatsoever. I have been running it this way since the last post and not had any of the issues, but I shouldn't have to have my display adapters disabled either.
I have tried both the current ATI Vista Beta drivers and the Vista system installed drivers but still have the same problem in the end.
Might try that this next week, I did end up getting a driver to work finally so I could enable my card. I'm using Catalyst 8.5 for WinXP and the drivers are working so far, now I only have issues 25% of the time when I restart. Glad to hear that yours is working well though.
"Brad Rothman" wrote:
No, I didnt upgrade my XP installation, I just installed it to another harddrive while still in XP. I have it setup as a dual boot now... Just stick the DVD in the drive while youre in XP and ask it to get all updates etc and it should work... it did for me at least... Good Luck
"Adam" wrote:
So your saying you did an upgrade from WinXP then and it all works fine now right?
"Brad Rothman" wrote:
OK, I just reinstalled from a XP installation as a new installaion on a another hard drive. This time I told it to check for updates before install, and everything seems to work fine now! Glass is finially working and I can reboot the pc WITHOUT HAVING TO GO INTO SAFE MODE FIRST! if you can dont install from DVD boot, rather just install from XP or something.
"Brad Rothman" wrote:
You and I are in the same boat my friend... Disabling the adapter or using the builtin Windows generic VGA Driver seems to work however this is not too usefull since it obvisouly doesn't support the glass theme. It also seems a bit slower when moving windows around and such.
"Adam" wrote:
Update from earlier, if I disable my display adapters and leave them that way then vista will restart without any problems whatsoever. I have been running it this way since the last post and not had any of the issues, but I shouldn't have to have my display adapters disabled either.
I have tried both the current ATI Vista Beta drivers and the Vista system installed drivers but still have the same problem in the end.
Unfortunately, I cannot get the Catalyst 6.5 for WinXP to even install. (I assume you meant 6.5, as it is the newest version) I can't try the method Brad posted either, so I'm still stuck with black screens. I've tried both the windows and ATI drivers, and turned down hardware acceleration to none. I am running the AGP version of the card.
"Adam" wrote:
Might try that this next week, I did end up getting a driver to work finally so I could enable my card. I'm using Catalyst 8.5 for WinXP and the drivers are working so far, now I only have issues 25% of the time when I restart. Glad to hear that yours is working well though.
"Brad Rothman" wrote:
No, I didnt upgrade my XP installation, I just installed it to another harddrive while still in XP. I have it setup as a dual boot now... Just stick the DVD in the drive while youre in XP and ask it to get all updates etc and it should work... it did for me at least... Good Luck
"Adam" wrote:
So your saying you did an upgrade from WinXP then and it all works fine now right?
"Brad Rothman" wrote:
OK, I just reinstalled from a XP installation as a new installaion on a another hard drive. This time I told it to check for updates before install, and everything seems to work fine now! Glass is finially working and I can reboot the pc WITHOUT HAVING TO GO INTO SAFE MODE FIRST! if you can dont install from DVD boot, rather just install from XP or something.
"Brad Rothman" wrote:
You and I are in the same boat my friend... Disabling the adapter or using the builtin Windows generic VGA Driver seems to work however this is not too usefull since it obvisouly doesn't support the glass theme. It also seems a bit slower when moving windows around and such.
"Adam" wrote:
Update from earlier, if I disable my display adapters and leave them that way then vista will restart without any problems whatsoever. I have been running it this way since the last post and not had any of the issues, but I shouldn't have to have my display adapters disabled either.
I have tried both the current ATI Vista Beta drivers and the Vista system installed drivers but still have the same problem in the end.
Unfortunately, I cannot get the Catalyst 6.5 for WinXP to even install. (I assume you meant 6.5, as it is the newest version) I can't try the method Brad posted either, so I'm still stuck with black screens. I've tried both the windows and ATI drivers, and turned down hardware acceleration to none. I am running the AGP version of the card.
"Adam" wrote:
Might try that this next week, I did end up getting a driver to work finally so I could enable my card. I'm using Catalyst 8.5 for WinXP and the drivers are working so far, now I only have issues 25% of the time when I restart. Glad to hear that yours is working well though.
"Brad Rothman" wrote:
No, I didnt upgrade my XP installation, I just installed it to another harddrive while still in XP. I have it setup as a dual boot now... Just stick the DVD in the drive while youre in XP and ask it to get all updates etc and it should work... it did for me at least... Good Luck
"Adam" wrote:
So your saying you did an upgrade from WinXP then and it all works fine now right?
"Brad Rothman" wrote:
OK, I just reinstalled from a XP installation as a new installaion on a another hard drive. This time I told it to check for updates before install, and everything seems to work fine now! Glass is finially working and I can reboot the pc WITHOUT HAVING TO GO INTO SAFE MODE FIRST! if you can dont install from DVD boot, rather just install from XP or something.
"Brad Rothman" wrote:
You and I are in the same boat my friend... Disabling the adapter or using the builtin Windows generic VGA Driver seems to work however this is not too usefull since it obvisouly doesn't support the glass theme. It also seems a bit slower when moving windows around and such.
"Adam" wrote:
Update from earlier, if I disable my display adapters and leave them that way then vista will restart without any problems whatsoever. I have been running it this way since the last post and not had any of the issues, but I shouldn't have to have my display adapters disabled either.
I have tried both the current ATI Vista Beta drivers and the Vista system installed drivers but still have the same problem in the end.
Just wanted to let you guys know that I'm using thw Windows WDDM driver dated 4/26/2006 Driver version 7.7.9.0 which seems to be working fine still. Benchmark isnt as good with the wondows drivers but it works...
"Trever" wrote:
Unfortunately, I cannot get the Catalyst 6.5 for WinXP to even install. (I assume you meant 6.5, as it is the newest version) I can't try the method Brad posted either, so I'm still stuck with black screens. I've tried both the windows and ATI drivers, and turned down hardware acceleration to none. I am running the AGP version of the card.
"Adam" wrote:
Might try that this next week, I did end up getting a driver to work finally so I could enable my card. I'm using Catalyst 8.5 for WinXP and the drivers are working so far, now I only have issues 25% of the time when I restart. Glad to hear that yours is working well though.
"Brad Rothman" wrote:
No, I didnt upgrade my XP installation, I just installed it to another harddrive while still in XP. I have it setup as a dual boot now... Just stick the DVD in the drive while youre in XP and ask it to get all updates etc and it should work... it did for me at least... Good Luck
"Adam" wrote:
So your saying you did an upgrade from WinXP then and it all works fine now right?
"Brad Rothman" wrote:
OK, I just reinstalled from a XP installation as a new installaion on a another hard drive. This time I told it to check for updates before install, and everything seems to work fine now! Glass is finially working and I can reboot the pc WITHOUT HAVING TO GO INTO SAFE MODE FIRST! if you can dont install from DVD boot, rather just install from XP or something.
"Brad Rothman" wrote:
You and I are in the same boat my friend... Disabling the adapter or using the builtin Windows generic VGA Driver seems to work however this is not too usefull since it obvisouly doesn't support the glass theme. It also seems a bit slower when moving windows around and such.
"Adam" wrote:
Update from earlier, if I disable my display adapters and leave them that way then vista will restart without any problems whatsoever. I have been running it this way since the last post and not had any of the issues, but I shouldn't have to have my display adapters disabled either.
I have tried both the current ATI Vista Beta drivers and the Vista system installed drivers but still have the same problem in the end.
I was having the issue where I got a black screen after I installed Vista Beta 2. I have the AGP version of the card. I could boot into safe mode, uninstall the driver, and boot normally. After I installed the Catalyst driver in normal mode and rebooted, it would blue screen. I then had an idea since I'm using an older Intel motherboard. I went into the BIOS and AGP aperture was set to 64MB. I changed it to 256MB, the highest it would go, and voila! Its working now. Won't help you folks with PCI-e I guess.
"Brad Rothman" wrote:
Just wanted to let you guys know that I'm using thw Windows WDDM driver dated 4/26/2006 Driver version 7.7.9.0 which seems to be working fine still. Benchmark isnt as good with the wondows drivers but it works...
"Trever" wrote:
Unfortunately, I cannot get the Catalyst 6.5 for WinXP to even install. (I assume you meant 6.5, as it is the newest version) I can't try the method Brad posted either, so I'm still stuck with black screens. I've tried both the windows and ATI drivers, and turned down hardware acceleration to none. I am running the AGP version of the card.
"Adam" wrote:
Might try that this next week, I did end up getting a driver to work finally so I could enable my card. I'm using Catalyst 8.5 for WinXP and the drivers are working so far, now I only have issues 25% of the time when I restart. Glad to hear that yours is working well though.
"Brad Rothman" wrote:
No, I didnt upgrade my XP installation, I just installed it to another harddrive while still in XP. I have it setup as a dual boot now... Just stick the DVD in the drive while youre in XP and ask it to get all updates etc and it should work... it did for me at least... Good Luck
"Adam" wrote:
So your saying you did an upgrade from WinXP then and it all works fine now right?
"Brad Rothman" wrote:
OK, I just reinstalled from a XP installation as a new installaion on a another hard drive. This time I told it to check for updates before install, and everything seems to work fine now! Glass is finially working and I can reboot the pc WITHOUT HAVING TO GO INTO SAFE MODE FIRST! if you can dont install from DVD boot, rather just install from XP or something.
"Brad Rothman" wrote:
You and I are in the same boat my friend... Disabling the adapter or using the builtin Windows generic VGA Driver seems to work however this is not too usefull since it obvisouly doesn't support the glass theme. It also seems a bit slower when moving windows around and such.
"Adam" wrote:
Update from earlier, if I disable my display adapters and leave them that way then vista will restart without any problems whatsoever. I have been running it this way since the last post and not had any of the issues, but I shouldn't have to have my display adapters disabled either.
I have tried both the current ATI Vista Beta drivers and the Vista system installed drivers but still have the same problem in the end.
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